月初过世。才知道她是George Boole (Boolean logic)的曾孙女,伏尼契的侄孙女。
Joan Hinton, Physicist Who Chose China Over Atom Bomb, Is Dead at 88
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/12/science/12hinton.html
- Re: Joan Hinton (寒春)过世posted on 06/21/2010
小麦 wrote:
月初过世。才知道她是George Boole (Boolean logic)的曾孙女,伏尼契的侄孙女。
原来伏尼契是布尔的女儿?!数学家生了个革命家。
早就看到寒春去世的消息。她还很赞赏委内瑞拉查韦斯,说他跟美国“斗的很凶”。她的儿子“不适应”在美国的生活,又回到中国。
一直很佩服阳早寒春这些西方理想主义者。 - posted on 06/21/2010
维基上布尔家的谱系。
The Booles had five daughters:
1.Mary Ellen, (1856 - ?) who married the mathematician and author Charles Howard Hinton and had two children: George and Sebastian. Sebastian had three children:
---William H. Hinton visited China in the 1930s and 40s, and wrote an influential account of the communist land reform.
---Joan Hinton (1921–2010) worked for the Manhattan Project and lived in China from 1948 until her death on 8 June 2010; she was married to Sid Engst.
---Jean Hinton (married name Rosner) (1917–2002) peace activist.
2. Margaret, (1858 - ?) married Edward Ingram Taylor an artist.
Their elder son Geoffrey Ingram Taylor became a mathematician and a Fellow of the Royal Society.
Their younger son Julian was a Professor of Surgery.
3. Alicia, who made important contributions to four-dimensional geometry
4. Lucy Everest (1862–1905), who was first female Professor of Chemistry in England
5. Ethel Lilian, who married the Polish scientist and revolutionary Wilfrid Michael Voynich and was the author of the novel The Gadfly. - posted on 06/22/2010
一直很佩服阳早寒春这些西方理想主义者。
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/atomic-bomb-woman-pays-tribute-to-mao/story-e6frg6t6-1111117207806
Only somebody who had no clue of how people were suffering, who herself was not subjected to the mental humiliation and physical torture could still rave about Mao's greatness in this newspaper interview quote: "(Mao) was a terrific person and he liberated all the people -- he was not a monster at all."
It's one thing to be idealistic. A mind this stubborn, who also railed against Deng Xiao-ping's economic reform, that crosses the line of being stupid.
guanzhong wrote:
小麦 wrote:原来伏尼契是布尔的女儿?!数学家生了个革命家。
月初过世。才知道她是George Boole (Boolean logic)的曾孙女,伏尼契的侄孙女。
早就看到寒春去世的消息。她还很赞赏委内瑞拉查韦斯,说他跟美国“斗的很凶”。她的儿子“不适应”在美国的生活,又回到中国。
一直很佩服阳早寒春这些西方理想主义者。 - Re: Joan Hinton (寒春)过世posted on 06/22/2010
Mr politically-correct is here to lecture again... Are you constantly in such a political righteous mood 24-7-365? :)
- Re: Joan Hinton (寒春)过世posted on 06/23/2010
Always taking a predictable position of radical left of yore, and you are calling others "politically-correct"? You have any idea what it means? Repeating cliches is a tiresome life to live, not to mention kettle calling pot black.
gz wrote:
Mr politically-correct is here to lecture again... Are you constantly in such a political righteous mood 24-7-365? :)
- Re: Joan Hinton (寒春)过世posted on 06/23/2010
郑大世 - posted on 06/23/2010
Always taking a predictable position of radical left of yore, and you are calling others "politically-correct"? You have any idea what it means? Repeating cliches is a tiresome life to live, not to mention kettle calling pot black.
Killing people with A-bombs was not her ideal therefore she quit her physics. Helping people live better was her ideal therefore she came to China to raise cows to produce more milk, which was a luxury in China until recently. What is so "radical left" about that? I would simply call it great humanity, which is always admirable and timeless.
Are you even capable of seeing any thing without your either-right-or-left political glasses? - posted on 06/23/2010
Trotting out with your favorite black-and-white blinder and acting like a worldly sophisticated snob again? Anybody who doesn't agree with you is having a either-or binary view. How nice a convenient way to dismiss people.
Only, do you look in the mirror?
When in her youth Ms Hinton acted out her idealism and renounced violence and quit the bomb making program to pursue a more peaceful vocation, which is real admirable. And yet in her ideological zeal she participated in the Cultural Revolution, wrote the infamous Big Character Poster by the four foreign revolutionaries, actively collaborated with a regime to denounce her expatriates living in China, a regime that is way more murderous and violent than the one she ostensibly renounced. This is how extremism leads life astray. Even to the very end she would not retract the praises she piled on Mao, who will go down in histroy as one of the most vile mass murderers.
Yet with your one dimensional tunnel vision you see right pass a complicated human being and out come this romantic heroine with rose pedals whose earlier exploits can inoculate and whitewash all the mistakes and sins she committed in her later life. If this is not a straight ideological worldview I don't know what is.
Now I am not even here to criticize that your views lack depth or nuances. Just don't advertise something clearly you are not.
gz wrote:
Always taking a predictable position of radical left of yore, and you are calling others "politically-correct"? You have any idea what it means? Repeating cliches is a tiresome life to live, not to mention kettle calling pot black.Killing people with A-bombs was not her ideal therefore she quit her physics. Helping people live better was her ideal therefore she came to China to raise cows to produce more milk, which was a luxury in China until recently. What is so "radical left" about that? I would simply call it great humanity, which is always admirable and timeless.
Are you even capable of seeing any thing without your either-right-or-left political glasses? - posted on 06/24/2010
When in her youth Ms Hinton acted out her idealism and renounced violence and quit the bomb making program to pursue a more peaceful vocation, which is real admirable. And yet in her ideological zeal she participated in the Cultural Revolution, wrote the infamous Big Character Poster by the four foreign revolutionaries, actively collaborated with a regime to denounce her expatriates living in China, a regime that is way more murderous and violent than the one she ostensibly renounced. This is how extremism leads life astray.
To different degrees, most of Chinese did what she did during the CR, including, I would imagine, many of your friends and families. You don't seem to be able to distinguish between the regime and the people under its rule.
Even to the very end she would not retract the praises she piled on Mao, who will go down in histroy as one of the most vile mass murderers.
Similarly, you seem to lack the basic skill of distinguishing between deeds and opinions. She did many admirable deeds in her entire life, that is one thing. But it is quite another if she happened to have certain opinions which are not the same as yours. She was entitled of these opinions just as you are entitled of yours. I admire her most of her deeds she spent her entire life to do, I wouldn't be bothered if all her opinions are agreeable. But you use "your one dimensional tunnel vision" to judge the life of a "complicated human being" simply by some of her opinions while ignoring what she did in her long life, "If this is not a straight ideological worldview I don't know what is."
Thank you so much for providing these words, they really come in handy :-)
Yet with your one dimensional tunnel vision you see right pass a complicated human being and out come this romantic heroine with rose pedals whose earlier exploits can inoculate and whitewash all the mistakes and sins she committed in her later life. If this is not a straight ideological worldview I don't know what is.
Through you funny etiological glasses, do you always see others pretending what they are not, in order to show off what you are not?
BTW, if you desire to appear deep, you really need to think deep instead of accusing other for not being deep. Besides, for your information, not everybody here is trying to show how deep they are, even that may be why you are here. :) - posted on 06/24/2010
For your information, no one in my family denounced and snitched on other people. Maybe that's the difference in the environment we grew up. If you think snitching on other people and writing Big Character Posts denouncing others were what "most of Chinese did," then truly you and your family did not live like most Chinese people during that period.
On the contrary to what you are trying to claim, I never did such thing as "ignored her good deeds." I acknowledged her earlier idealism as admirable. I pointed out that in collaborating enthusiastically to denouncing others and being a telltale to her fellow American expatriates, not only did she betray her earlier idealism but also the basic human decency. This is not just her opinion but clear deeds.
As for her opinion about Mao, you can look pass that. Unfortunately, many Hitler admirers claim upstanding moral characters and "good deeds" in their lives too. I hope you embrace them as well.
Finally, I care not a whiff for what you are. Pretending deep or not, people can see right through. You argue your position and leave others to decide. Calling other people binary singleton while serving up a plateful of platitude doen't help your argument.
gz wrote:
When in her youth Ms Hinton acted out her idealism and renounced violence and quit the bomb making program to pursue a more peaceful vocation, which is real admirable. And yet in her ideological zeal she participated in the Cultural Revolution, wrote the infamous Big Character Poster by the four foreign revolutionaries, actively collaborated with a regime to denounce her expatriates living in China, a regime that is way more murderous and violent than the one she ostensibly renounced. This is how extremism leads life astray.To different degrees, most of Chinese did what she did during the CR, including, I would imagine, many of your friends and families. You don't seem to be able to distinguish between the regime and the people under its rule.
Even to the very end she would not retract the praises she piled on Mao, who will go down in histroy as one of the most vile mass murderers.Similarly, you seem to lack the basic skill of distinguishing between deeds and opinions. She did many admirable deeds in her entire life, that is one thing. But it is quite another if she happened to have certain opinions which are not the same as yours. She was entitled of these opinions just as you are entitled of yours. I admire her most of her deeds she spent her entire life to do, I wouldn't be bothered if all her opinions are agreeable. But you use "your one dimensional tunnel vision" to judge the life of a "complicated human being" simply by some of her opinions while ignoring what she did in her long life, "If this is not a straight ideological worldview I don't know what is."
Thank you so much for providing these words, they really come in handy :-)
Yet with your one dimensional tunnel vision you see right pass a complicated human being and out come this romantic heroine with rose pedals whose earlier exploits can inoculate and whitewash all the mistakes and sins she committed in her later life. If this is not a straight ideological worldview I don't know what is.Through you funny etiological glasses, do you always see others pretending what they are not, in order to show off what you are not?
BTW, if you desire to appear deep, you really need to think deep instead of accusing other for not being deep. Besides, for your information, not everybody here is trying to show how deep they are, even that may be why you are here. :) - posted on 06/24/2010
tar wrote:
For your information, no one in my family denounced and snitched on other people. Maybe that's the difference in the environment we grew up. If you think snitching on other people and writing Big Character Posts denouncing others were what "most of Chinese did," then truly you and your family did not live like most Chinese people during that period.
I admire my family for not involved in the craziness during the CR. In fact they were at the receiving end when 大字报 is concerned. I could extend that to all others, including yours, if they were the same. However, There is no denying that most people wrote "大字报“ during the time. But this is beyond the point.
On the contrary to what you are trying to claim, I never did such thing as "ignored her good deeds." I acknowledged her earlier idealism as admirable. I pointed out that in collaborating enthusiastically to denouncing others and being a telltale to her fellow American expatriates, not only did she betray her earlier idealism but also the basic human decency. This is not just her opinion but clear deeds. I am afraid I have very low tolerance when it comes to similar behaviors.
She spent over 60 years of her life in China mostly trying to help the people there whichever way she could without any selfish motivations. This simple act of genuine compassion and humanity alone deserves admiration. And her passion to help the Chinese people is completely consistent with her equally admirable act of quitting the bomb project, as they are out of the same idealism. Saying her later act betrays her earlier one is, well, how can I put it, shallow and superficial, sorry I don't have any better way to put it.
Judging people by their ideology and labeling them with whatever ideological terms is trivial, worthless, and certainly not deep :-). Also that reminds me of some old terms such as “阶级立场坚定”,“苦大仇深,爱憎分明". Sound remotely familiar? when the CCP was so good at using them? But to me these are very sickening words with bad associations. I am afraid I have very low tolerance when it comes to such similar behaviors. In the literal sense, the CCP was the true inventor of political correctness. Never mind if you don't understand what I mean. :-)
As for her opinion about Mao, you can look pass that. Unfortunately, many Hitler admirers claim upstanding moral characters and "good deeds" in their lives too. I hope you embrace them as well.
Hah! here you go again. How come I just knew within three posts, you would bring Hitler's name up, no exception even once? Does he help your argument in anyway? :-)
Finally, I care not a whiff for what you are. Pretending deep or not, people can see right through. You argue your position and leave others to decide. Calling other people binary singleton while serving up a plateful of platitude doen't help your argument.
These words are totally hollow without any substance. If you have nothing else interesting to say you can always shut up. Let me show you how to do so by not responding to this. - posted on 06/24/2010
Calling names and labeling people is your specialty. Nobody can remotely claim that title from you. The first post you call me Mr. politically correct, the second one Mr. left-or-right, never mind not a scintilla of understanding of these terms is shown in your writing. You must be hearing your own voices when the terms of “阶级立场坚定”,“苦大仇深,爱憎分明" conjured up in your mind. Looks like your "low tolerance of such behavior" only applies to other people. And I have news for you, labeling others "shallow and superficial" doesn't make it so. People can read. In fact, I couldn't care less what you think or say.
But let's get back to the point, writing "大字报“ to denounce other people is precisely the point. Contrary to what you observed in your environment, it was definitively NOT "most people did during the time." And because what she did then, and her snitching on other Westerns living in China, that was the betrayal of her earlier idealism, not the earlier good work you so desperately trying to use to gloss it over.
In most cultures tell on other people is considered the most egregious immorality there is. But I guess to you it is acceptable as long as she did good work prior to that. To extend your logic why restrict your admiration for Mao lovers? If you don't like Hitler (touched on a nerve somewhere?) how about a run-of-mill mass murderer, a serial killer? Consulting your moral compass is there any line at all you'd draw that will soil someone's good reputation for her earlier work?
Let me show you how to do so by not responding to this.
I have seen your type quite often. You always want to have the last word, and if you don't think you can, you'd pretend taking the high road by preemptively claim the last word. It won't work here. Just remember, I don't write this for you, rather it's for anybody who comes here for a laugh. I only try to entertain, you are just my last prop.
gz wrote:
tar wrote:I admire my family for not involved in the craziness during the CR. I could extend that to yours if they were the same. However, There is no denying that most people wrote "大字报“ during the time. But this is beyond the point.
For your information, no one in my family denounced and snitched on other people. Maybe that's the difference in the environment we grew up. If you think snitching on other people and writing Big Character Posts denouncing others were what "most of Chinese did," then truly you and your family did not live like most Chinese people during that period.
On the contrary to what you are trying to claim, I never did such thing as "ignored her good deeds." I acknowledged her earlier idealism as admirable. I pointed out that in collaborating enthusiastically to denouncing others and being a telltale to her fellow American expatriates, not only did she betray her earlier idealism but also the basic human decency. This is not just her opinion but clear deeds. I am afraid I have very low tolerance when it comes to similar behaviors.She spent over 60 years of her life in China mostly trying to help the people there whichever way she could without any selfish motivations. This simple act of genuine compassion and humanity alone deserves admiration. And her passion to help the Chinese people is completely consistent with her equally admirable act of quitting the bomb project, as they are out of the same idealism. Saying her later act betrays her earlier one is, well, how can I put it, shallow and superficial, sorry I don't have any better way to put it.
Labeling people with whatever ideological terms is trivial, worthless, and certainly not deep :-). And that reminds me of some old terms such as “阶级立场坚定”,“苦大仇深,爱憎分明". Sound remotely familiar? when the CCP was so good at using them? But to me these are very sickening words with bad associations. I am afraid I have very low tolerance when it comes to such similar behaviors.
As for her opinion about Mao, you can look pass that. Unfortunately, many Hitler admirers claim upstanding moral characters and "good deeds" in their lives too. I hope you embrace them as well.Hah! here you go again. How come I just knew within three posts, you would bring Hitler's name up, no exception even once? Does he help your argument in anyway? :-)
Finally, I care not a whiff for what you are. Pretending deep or not, people can see right through. You argue your position and leave others to decide. Calling other people binary singleton while serving up a plateful of platitude doen't help your argument.These words are totally hollow without any substance. If you have nothing else interesting to say you can always shut up. Let me show you how to do so by not responding to this. - posted on 06/24/2010
tar wrote:
For your information, no one in my family denounced and snitched on other people. Maybe that's the difference in the environment we grew up. If you think snitching on other people and writing Big Character Posts denouncing others were what "most of Chinese did," then truly you and your family did not live like most Chinese people during that period.
哈哈哈哈...
就算相信你一次,你老爹没有在CR中写过大字报。就请你向你老爹学习一次,不要
动部动就把你那点鸡零狗碎的帖子写成小字报,OK?
Just remember, I don't write this for you, rather it's for anybody who
comes here for a laugh. I only try to entertain, you are just my last prop.
OK?
哈哈哈哈...
- posted on 06/24/2010
tar wrote:
Calling names and labeling people is your specialty. Nobody can remotely claim that title from you. The first post you call me Mr. politically correct, the second one Mr. left-or-right, never mind not a scintilla of understanding of these terms is shown in your writing. You must be hearing your own voices when the terms of “阶级立场坚定”,“苦大仇深,爱憎分明" conjured up in your mind. Looks like your "low tolerance of such behavior" only applies to other people. And I have news for you, labeling others "shallow and superficial" doesn't make it so. People can read. In fact, I couldn't care less what you think or say.
What I said was "judging people by their *ideology* and labeling people with *ideological* terms", isn't ideology what you care? Didn't you bring up the issue of "radical left" and her opinion about Mao while I was generally commenting on her idealism? I don't care about her ideology or whether she was Mao loving or Mao hating, so long as she spent most of her life doing good day in and day out.
But let's get back to the point, writing "大字报“ to denounce other people is precisely the point. Contrary to what you observed in your environment, it was definitively NOT "most people did during the time." And because what she did then, and her snitching on other Westerns living in China, that was the betrayal of her earlier idealism, not the earlier good work you so desperately trying to use to gloss it over.
It starts to sound interesting now. You think not only her quitting the bomb project is admirable, but also she did "good work" after coming to China? Now, how about her work after the CR? How about most of the 60+ years she spent in China developing her dairy farm, because she thought Chinese needed milk instead of atom bombs? How do you compare the 60 years dedication to some 大字报? Are you desperately trying to use her 大字报 to deny her life long dedication?
To extend your logic why restrict your admiration for a Mao lovers? If you don't like Hitler (touched on a nerve somewhere?) how about a run-of-mill mass murderer, a serial killer? Consulting your moral compass is there any line at all you'd draw that will soil someone's good reputation for her earlier work?
Wow! this sounds really funny. Touch a nerve? Are you suggesting I have admiration for Hitler or serial killers? Don't lower yourself to that extent. Don't ridicule yourself by talking nonsense like this, for your own sake, seriously.
I think I have said pretty much all I need to say on this topic, unless you bring up some point of real interest. Otherwise I will let you have the last words. My last words are simply: talking to ideological maniacs is really boring. Bye for now Mr politically correct! :-) - posted on 06/24/2010
Your bending out of shape trying to escape this straight jacket of "what I am judging and labeling is not judging and labeling" looks painful and worthy the effort of a top notch contortionist from Cirque du Soleil. But you are digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole by suggesting "politically correct" and "left and right" are not ideological terms. What planet do you live on?
I never expected you to gracefully concede a logically untenable argument, after all, you ate your "last words" with gusto without a hint of embarrassment. But how many times do I have to ask you, in your view if somebody did good work earlier in her life, does that immune her from doing bad things ever? If your mind doesn't work in abstract deductive reasoning, let's get to specifics:
1) What kind of good work one has to do first to qualify her getting this rarefied lifetime freepass? If quitting one's nuclear research job to raise cows is one, how about quitting weapons research program and becoming a priest? (Be careful answering this one.) Is there anything more she needs to do? For how long? If 60 years is good enough, how about 30 year? 15 years? If one does 10 years of good work and sits on her laurel for the next 50 years, does it qualify?
2) What's your standard to define "good work"? Saving people's life must qualify? Surely you've heard the MAD doctrine between the super powers? The consensus view among historians is that nuclear weapons prevented a third world war from erupting during the cold war, hence saved millions of lives, can your "non-black-and-white" mind grasp this paradox?
3) If one gets this pass, is there nothing that she can do now to knock her down from your pedestal reserved for all saints? Writing some 大字报 to denounce others is not a blemish in your eye then snitching surely is? And certainly you draw a line at killing people, no? You made it patently clear that the love of Mao certainly would not diminish your admiration for her, but you haven't answered my question that does this exception extend to other tyrants as well?
And, please stop this coquettish "does he come back? does he not?" tease and preserve some dignity already. Last time I see, there is no drag queen parade in sight.
gz wrote:
tar wrote:What I said was "judging people by their *ideology* and labeling people with *ideological* terms", isn't ideology what you care? Didn't you bring up the issue of "radical left" and her opinion about Mao while I was generally commenting on her idealism? I don't care about her ideology or whether she loved or hated Mao, so long as she spent most of her life doing good day in and day out.
Calling names and labeling people is your specialty. Nobody can remotely claim that title from you. The first post you call me Mr. politically correct, the second one Mr. left-or-right, never mind not a scintilla of understanding of these terms is shown in your writing. You must be hearing your own voices when the terms of “阶级立场坚定”,“苦大仇深,爱憎分明" conjured up in your mind. Looks like your "low tolerance of such behavior" only applies to other people. And I have news for you, labeling others "shallow and superficial" doesn't make it so. People can read. In fact, I couldn't care less what you think or say.
But let's get back to the point, writing "大字报“ to denounce other people is precisely the point. Contrary to what you observed in your environment, it was definitively NOT "most people did during the time." And because what she did then, and her snitching on other Westerns living in China, that was the betrayal of her earlier idealism, not the earlier good work you so desperately trying to use to gloss it over.It starts to sound interesting now. You think not only her quitting the bomb project is admirable, but also she did "good work" after coming to China? Now, how about her work after the CR? How about most of the 60+ years she spent in China developing her dairy farm, because she thought Chinese needed milk instead of atom bombs? How do you compare the 60 years dedication to some 大字报? Are you desperately trying to use her 大字报 to deny her life long dedication?
In most cultures tell on other people is considered the most egregious immorality there is. But I guess to you it is acceptable as long as she did good work prior to that.I heard it was pretty common in Switzerland for some to tell on their neighbors for minor violations of local regulations. But that is again beyond the point.
To extend your logic why restrict your admiration for a Mao lovers? If you don't like Hitler (touched on a nerve somewhere?) how about a run-of-mill mass murderer, a serial killer? Consulting your moral compass is there any line at all you'd draw that will soil someone's good reputation for her earlier work?Wow! this sounds really funny. I admire her for her life long good deed, it has nothing to do with whether she loved Mao or not. Touch a nerve? Are you suggesting I have admiration for Hitler or serial killers? Don't lower yourself to that extent. Don't ridicule yourself by talking nonsense like this, for your own sake, seriously.
I think I have said pretty much all I need to say, unless you bring up some point of real interest. Otherwise I will let you have the last words. My last words are simply: talking to ideological maniacs is really boring. Bye for now Mr politically correct! :-) - posted on 06/24/2010
我有两个老师,一个是gay, 一个是lesbian. 这两个人水平都挺高,人都挺好。按理说他们都是同性恋,更有理由成为一条壕里相亲相爱的战友。可大概干这行的人都太有个性了,谁耐烦你是不是只爱同性。过程略去,总之这两人硬是排除了所有可以相亲相爱的有利条件成为我们系当年最著名的两大“水火绝不相容”。
水火到什么程度呢,拿我一个美国师姐(水瓶座)眉飞色舞绘声绘色的比喻,就是你如果给他俩火把,他俩就能像Savonarola烧书,或者教宗亚历山大六世烧掉Savonarola那样,毫不犹豫的烧掉对方。
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说真的我有点头昏,不知道你们是怎么吵起来的,明明两个人都是我喜欢的呀。关中游记没时间写,吵起架来荷尔蒙飞溅,我每天看这个贴,都好像在看萤火虫飞舞。
你们要真铁了心用文字的火把烧掉对方,这犯罪现场和我无关啊。
说真的,烧掉了对方还怪寂寞的。省点力气下次接着吵吧。爱人要省着点爱,吵架对手也要省着点吵。可供吵架的政治话题多的是。
- Re: Joan Hinton (寒春)过世posted on 06/24/2010
To call them "理想主义者" made me throw up instantly.
guanzhong wrote:
一直很佩服阳早寒春这些西方理想主义者。 - posted on 06/24/2010
小麦可能有所不知, we go way back arguing, but we won't burn each other to death. :-)
Sometime I feel it still may have some value of entreatment, and certainly it is a mental exercise, good for preventing AD :-)
自由论坛上聊政治也可以很有趣。但就怕有人拉了个长脸出来当正义化身、道德警察卫道士,觉得不耐看就斗两句嘴啦!
再说就是车轱辘话了。我已经说了 last words了,男子汉大丈夫说话算数,钻桌子底下说不出来就不出来,小麦聊政治是行家里手,咱爱听。别受咱干扰,你接着聊. :-)
小麦 wrote:
我有两个老师,一个是gay, 一个是lesbian. 这两个人水平都挺高,人都挺好。按理说他们都是同性恋,更有理由成为一条壕里相亲相爱的战友。
这倒是个有意思的话题。gay 和 lesbian 在争取结婚权利上可能同道,但他她们相互之间如何感觉?他们更有理由相亲相爱吗?第一,他们不可能相爱(除非是 bi ),第二,他们也不会嫉妒,因为在择偶上他们互不威胁。他们简直就是根本不搭界。一种另类的逻辑...... - posted on 06/24/2010
Some 65 millions (much more than people killed by NAZI and Jap combined) chinese were killed within the communism regime in China after 1949 according to the "The Black Book of Communism". CCP turned mass crime into a full-blown system of government.
Joan Hinton and such "理想主义者" are active participants and 革命的螺丝钉 of this evil system. They are not kidnapped or passively forced to do so. They were either totally blind (ignorant of massive killings inside China) or same evil as CCP to support the CCP for decades till they died.
What kind of moron has the taste to 佩服 those 理想主义者 thugs?
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